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Rebecca Hb. ([personal profile] beckyh2112) wrote2006-07-05 12:29 am

Because my flist hasn't gotten enough posts from me today

Who do you think is the most honourable G1 Decepticon and why?

Please specify your interpretations as being from the cartoon, the Marvel comics, or the Dreamwave comics. Please do not mix and match continuities. Feel free to answer for each of those three continuities seperately.

[identity profile] dragoness-e.livejournal.com 2006-07-05 11:51 am (UTC)(link)
Cartoon-wise, I'd have to say Cyclonus as well, though Blitzwing is a good second-place. Cyclonus got more airtime to show his stuff, though. He's also touchy about other Decepticons falling short of his standard--look at how disgusted he was getting with both Octane and the Sweeps for their behavior in "Starscream's Ghost".

On the flip-side, I think Starscream is excessively maligned as dishonorable and treacherous. He made no secret from day one that he thought Megatron was the wrong leader for the Decepticons and that he intended to take over. He told Megatron that to his face! It's not treachery when someone tells you up front "I'm your enemy and plan to oust you as soon as I can". And it wasn't Starscream who did the betraying when it came to the Combaticons...

[identity profile] charles-rb.livejournal.com 2006-07-05 05:42 pm (UTC)(link)
"It's not treachery when someone tells you up front "I'm your enemy and plan to oust you as soon as I can"."

Or it could just be very stupid treachery. ;)

[identity profile] ravenclaw-devi.livejournal.com 2006-07-07 03:53 am (UTC)(link)
Or it could be that he didn't really want to off Megatron (but if I go into that, we'll still be here tomorrow).

Or it could be that he wanted to assert himself as a good Decepticon 2IC (i.e. someone who, as per Decepticon culture, is supposed to be at the leader's throat).

I know the view of Starscream as stupid is very popular, especially among male fans (no, I'm not saying that to be sexist, just as an observation), but I don't think he would have survived as long as he did and remained 2IC as long as he did if he hadn't somehow been good at what he was doing, you know?

[identity profile] charles-rb.livejournal.com 2006-07-07 10:13 pm (UTC)(link)
"I know the view of Starscream as stupid is very popular, especially among male fans"

That's an interesting point - why is it female transfans think one thing about Starscream and male ones think another (namely, "yeh dumb arsegike!")?

As for how he remained such a high-ranker, I figure it for a cross between him having some tactical competency and Megatron wanting to make sure he knows for a fact where the most likely backstabs & coups will come from.

[identity profile] ravenclaw-devi.livejournal.com 2006-07-07 03:55 am (UTC)(link)
That's why I said, 'depends on your definition of "honour".' By Decepticon standards, the behaviour of someone who employs any means necessary (including treachery) and keeps his leader on his "toes" (as Starscream does) might well be supremely commendable.