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Rebecca Hb. ([personal profile] beckyh2112) wrote2007-01-02 11:22 pm
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Nexus RPG Frustrations

I'm still pretty frustrated over something that happened around Christmas in our current plotline.

Background for those who are interested: Assorted Transformers have been turned human and sold into slavery. Since the player for some of the very vital characters had to take a hiatus due to RL, a lot of the roleplaying action is going on among the people trying to rescue the slaves and the people trying to get the machine rebuilt so they can restore the transformed Transformers to their proper bodies.

Christmas Day, the remaining active player of an extremely vital Transformer-turned-human hit a Magic Reset button on her character. She has demonstrated no interest in trying to reconcile her character being reset with our ongoing plotline.

And this is frustrating as hell since at least one of the characters involved in rescue operations wouldn't be involved if it weren't for her character. Hell, one of the utterly major plotpoints wouldn't have happened at all without her character.

But she just... backed out. Because she couldn't keep up with the roleplay.

WE'VE GOT AN INDEX! An index for every post in the RP!

Except, of course, it's not because she can't keep up. It seems to be because one of her friends got annoyed at the rest of us and the way we roleplay. Apparently, we should slow down and wait for people who are not online to get a word in. Yeah, and when did you guys do that during the Void Saga? I seem to recall most of that being, oh, about seven of us, and we sure as hell didn't wait and see if anyone else wanted to get involved. But look, three of that seven are now complaining because other people are going on with their roleplays when they aren't online.

I guess if I weren't used to the concept that if you miss something, you miss something and should just catch up, I might be more sympathetic. But there's a big part of me that believes if you've got to go to bed, you should do something to make sure your character can be limbo while other characters play on. They shouldn't have to break up their gaming because you can't be on; that makes things not fun for them.

But maybe I'm an entitlement bitch. That's always a possibility.

ETA assorted clarifications: Yes, there was more to her resetting than her friend not liking some of the rest of us. I can understand and accept those other reasons, but it annoys the hell out of me that I have find out about them from a third-party.

I am angry over her leaving. I am really angry over the majority of us getting handed an excuse instead of the actual issues being brought up. I am not a mind-reader. I'm not even especially text-empathic. I'm willing to bet most of the rest of us aren't. If you don't say something, then other people won't know about it and nothing will be fixed.

[identity profile] poptartodoom.livejournal.com 2007-01-03 08:00 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure what she told others, but from our discussions of it, she was tired of how it was hurting her friends. I'd been hurt deeply by things that happened several times, and I know some of her other friends were similarly hurt. She posted about it a few times in her normal LJ about how it was spinning out of control and she just wanted to quit.

She was tired of being a part of something that hurt her friends. Maybe she didn't explain for reasons of her own, or maybe I'm just totally barking up the wrong tree, but in my understanding, it wasn't *fun* anymore. She just wanted to have her character back.

However, just because she took her PC out doesn't mean she said we couldn't NPC the character. She was fine with that. She just didn't want to play in that game anymore.

I don't, either, but there's no real point in pulling out, for me. My character wouldn't have anything to do anyway. I hadn't used him in any other capacity yet. And maybe I'll finally get to do something that I'll actually enjoy, instead of ending up in tears of frustration constantly like before. What can I say- I'm a RPG masochist, I think. >_>

[identity profile] beckyh2112.livejournal.com 2007-01-03 08:05 am (UTC)(link)
I can get not wanting to play a game that wasn't fun anymore. I can get being upset over the way the game was affecting people. I can understand all of that.

But I'm also working under the fact that I woke up on Christmas morning to find Duskwing's player almost in tears because of what she had posted. And when I did found out why she pulled out, it was "I couldn't keep up with it". Nothing else.

I'm still angry over that. I can see why she did what she did, but it doesn't take away a lot of my anger. Especially since I had to find out about her being exceptionally upset with the game, above and beyond how I was feeling, through third-parties.

As for being an RPG masochist... I still play Transformers: 2005. That game is far, far wankier and more hurtful than the Nexus rpg has been. Seems like the damn MUSH keeps running on spite.

[identity profile] ravenclaw-devi.livejournal.com 2007-01-03 08:40 am (UTC)(link)
Especially since I had to find out about her being exceptionally upset with the game, above and beyond how I was feeling, through third-parties.

I see that, and raise you a "and I found out nothing beyond what was just said here." [Expletive deleted], I just love it when people can't bring whatever issues may be there on the table, so that others can actually know what's going on.

(I do remember seeing that "I've started a monster" post which now seems to be gone (deleted?), but that post had comments disabled so that I couldn't ask what the frell was the matter. Yay for communication. :( )

I'll say more on this later (things to do now, plus I gotta sort out my feelings).

[identity profile] ravenology.livejournal.com 2007-01-03 11:40 am (UTC)(link)
You 'n me both. I admit I didn't know how bad things'd gotten for some of us. Since my mom's been visiting me over the holidays I haven't been able to keep up with other peoples' discussions so much, so I have very little idea of what's gone on. I had a vague idea, but I had no idea some of us were getting so upset.

The reset post did make me somewhat confused because I wasn't there when/if there were any discussions on the button being pushed. I figured we'd just have to try and work around it somehow. Too much has happened in the plot for us to try and retcon it completely or whatever, and I certainly wouldn't want it to be after everything we've done. There was some really good RP interaction in there, and I like that.

Having said that, if people have their reasons then they have their reasons. I can accept that. My philosophy is that there's no point being pissed at them even if you may or may not think they deserve it. It's not impossible to work with what we've still got. We've made it this far and tying up the lose ends to this plotline isn't out of our capability.

*skritches everyone and sighs at the situation in general*

[identity profile] ravenclaw-devi.livejournal.com 2007-01-03 11:48 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, I'm not pissed at anyone in the sense of hating them or anything. More like disappointed that people I considered (and still consider) my friends seemingly didn't trust me enough or didn't consider me approachable enough (or, worst case scenario, didn't consider me part of this enough) to talk to me when things went bad.

[identity profile] ravenology.livejournal.com 2007-01-03 12:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I was referring to the issue of the reset button when I was talking about being pissed. Sorry, I need to be more clear with my wording a lot of the time... *thwaps self*

I suspect part of the problem might be that when people're upset about how an RP might be going, people are often too afraid of stirring up the wangst to say anything about the fact that they're having problems. So they hide it. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to have made things better in the long run, and although I don't know the full story I do admit to getting the impression that in a way, we're opening old wounds by bringing up these problems. Because they may have been able to have been dealt with sooner, instead of being left to fester until things got so bad that people're in tears or resetting or quitting the game or whatever.

Then again, I don't know the whole story. Maybe what I've just said in the above paragraph is therefore a loada bull, but I won't know until I've heard the whole story.

[identity profile] ravenclaw-devi.livejournal.com 2007-01-03 12:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I suspect part of the problem might be that when people're upset about how an RP might be going, people are often too afraid of stirring up the wangst to say anything about the fact that they're having problems.

Yes, people are afraid of the wangst and the drama and the potentially hurt feelings, but (as you said) just not saying anything doesn't help.

If there's a problem (speaking in general here, not just as related to RP), I'd rather people told me to my face (or as "to the face" as you can get in online communication).

[identity profile] earthscorch.livejournal.com 2007-01-03 12:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm befuddled by your 2k5 experience. Aside from a rough patch we got over, I don't see what you find so horrible. Maybe you're just taking things too seriously.

[identity profile] lunatron.livejournal.com 2007-01-03 04:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I still don't see Fleet back. ;P

[identity profile] earthscorch.livejournal.com 2007-01-04 02:28 am (UTC)(link)
No MUSH is perfect. ;)

[identity profile] beckyh2112.livejournal.com 2007-01-03 05:34 pm (UTC)(link)
My experience with 2K5 started to go seriously downhill when the previous Shockwave decided to randomly restart MilOps, and I stupidly jumped into the middle of the new plot. It's pretty much continued to go downhill ever since with some bright spots that have made me keep with it.

[identity profile] earthscorch.livejournal.com 2007-01-04 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
Well, I hope re-inserting mil-ops isn't your biggest gripe, or you're definitely taking things too seriously.

[identity profile] beckyh2112.livejournal.com 2007-01-04 02:42 am (UTC)(link)
*stares*

Key word and tricky phrase in that above post of mine: 'started'.

[identity profile] earthscorch.livejournal.com 2007-01-04 03:30 am (UTC)(link)
Instead of talking on here, log in some time and discuss it with me. I'm curious. :)

[identity profile] beckyh2112.livejournal.com 2007-01-04 03:36 am (UTC)(link)
If it's all the same, I really rather wouldn't. Some of it's personal, and some of it's stuff that I can't actually do anything about.

In all honesty, I do like the game quite a lot. I'd have quit by now if I didn't. But I do find it to be poisonous sometimes.

[identity profile] earthscorch.livejournal.com 2007-01-04 09:50 am (UTC)(link)
Okay!

[identity profile] ravenclaw-devi.livejournal.com 2007-01-03 11:28 am (UTC)(link)
She was tired of being a part of something that hurt her friends.

Okay, this is something I can understand. Or rather, something I would have understood if I had frelling known about it. As it is, I had no frickin' idea that anyone was feeling hurt because nobody told me (or anyone?) anything. This is what's bothering me - the lack of communication.

Yes, I realise I wasn't exactly there much directly before Christmas, but I wasn't unreachable either. I would have responded to e-mail or a note on my LJ. That, and if I understand this correctly, the problem (whatever problem I wasn't told about) has been more long-going than that.